太陽能發電場安裝在中國北方陜西省的山頂上，綿延80公里
This solar farm is installed on the mountaintop of Northern China''s Shanxi, stretching 80 kilometers
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It’ll take the US 10+years building just to barely come close to that
美國需要10多年的時間才能勉強接近這一規模
10+years planning and figuring out where the money will come from.Then another 10+to slowly install them.Another few years to actually bring them online.It’s like how we take 8-10 years to widen a freeway once,and when it’s done,there is already more traffic so they need to do it again.
If they were smart,they would widen it 3 lanes each side while they already have the crew and equipment there.Future proof it a little and save a lot!
10年以上的計劃和找到資金的來源，然后再10年以上的緩慢安裝，再過幾年就能把它們上線了。這就像我們花8-10年的時間拓寬一次高速公路，當它完工時，已經有了更多的交通運輸，所以他們需要再做一次。
如果他們聰明的話，他們會在那里加寬3條車道，而他們已經有工人和設備了。未來會證明這一點，會節省很多！
I live in a suburban area in guangdong province.Mad lads built at least one subway line with 20-30 stations EVERY YEAR since I moved there.This dynamic is something I never experienced in my life before.
我住在廣東省的一個郊區。自從我搬到那里后，瘋狂的小伙子們每年至少建一條地鐵線，有20-30個車站。這種動態變化是我一生中從未經歷過的。
I think China is spending money and effort on many things the US is falling behind on.Only threat directly at the US is how bad our power grid and infrastructure is in comparison.
我認為中國在許多美國落后的事情上花費了金錢和精力。唯一直接威脅美國的是，我們的電網和基礎設施有多糟糕。
Funny how using the wilderness for any other purpose is absolutely fine,but the second it’s done for solar power it’s suddenly a massive issue?Even when it doesn’t even cause any harm?
Some people in this comment section have an agenda or are flat out stupid
有趣的是，如何將荒野用于任何其他用途才是特別好的呢？怎么一旦它用于太陽能，它突然是一個巨大的問題呢？即使它甚至不會造成任何傷害？
這個評論區的一些人在找事情，或者是完全愚蠢的
No I hate it since it takes up so much space for something a nuclear power plant can do less than 60th of the space
And is safer
不，我討厭它，因為它占用了太多的場地來做核電站也能做的事情，只要不到60分之一的場地
而且更安全
China’s already the second biggest producer of nuclear power after the US and they’re building a shit ton more reactors.Besides if someone posted a picture of a Chinese nuclear power plant reddit would just say you can’t trust them even though they’ve never had a single nuclear accident
中國已經是僅次于美國的第二大核電生產國，而且他們正在建造成噸的更多的核反應堆。此外，如果有人發布了一座正在建設的中國核電站的照片，Reddit這里會只是說，你不能完全信任中國，即使他們從來沒有發生過任何一起核事故。
Wow that will work for 10 years!
哇，這將能運行10年！
My neighbor installed his PV panels in 2006.They are still working and still have good efficiency(although not as good as the new ones,that are being manufactured these days).Where do you have the 10 year limit from?
我的鄰居在2006年安裝了他的光伏板，它們還在工作，效率仍然很好（雖然沒有新的好，比如現在正在制造的那些），你的10年期限從哪里來？
Because your neighbour likely built one on their roof.This is built on the ground,where it has to compete with loose dirt,plants growing around it,and even animals bothering it.
There could be many reasons why a lot of these won't even last 5 years.
因為你的鄰居很可能在他們的屋頂上建了一個。這里是建在地面上的，在那里它必須要抵抗松散的泥土、周圍生長的植物，甚至動物會打擾它。
可能有很多原因，使很多這樣的光伏板甚至不會持續5年。
You mean like thousands other PV parks built around the world?Take Romania for example:most of the PVs are installed in fields,many were built over 10 years ago,and they are still working fine,generating electricity.Of course you have maintenance,but you'll have that fot any kind of energy generation system:
你說的就像全世界建造了成千上萬的光伏公園一樣？以羅馬尼亞為例：大多數光伏板安裝在田里，許多是10多年前建造的，它們仍然工作正常，發電。當然，你要維護，就像任何類型的能源發電系統需要的那樣：
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There's panels being developed nowadays that should retain 90%of their efficiency from the day they were made after 50 years.Properly maintained these could last 50+years and still be generating 80-90%of their original output.
That's comparable to coal plants and nuclear plants.
And whenever the panels are decommissioned they can be recycled,most likely going towards newer,more efficient panels.
現在正在開發的面板應該保持90%的效率，從制造的那天起到50年后。適當維護這些產品可以持續50多年，但仍能產生原始發電量的80-90%。
這可與煤廠和核電站相媲美。
每當面板報廢時，它們都可以回收利用，很可能會用于更新、更高效的面板。
You realize they built the most nuclear reactors as well right?China leads on most energy categories by a fuckton.They burn the most coal,build the most renewables,and build the most nuclear lmao.
你知道他們也建造了最多的核反應堆，對吧？中國在大多數能源類別上TMD領先。他們燃燒最多的煤炭，建造最多的可再生能源，建造最多的核電站，笑死我了。
It's almost like they have the most people,who are also industrializing at the highest rate,requiring breakneck development of their energy grid or something....
這幾乎就像他們擁有最多的人口，他們也在以最高的速度工業化，需要他們自己的飛速發展的能源網或其他什么的......
This comment section urgently needs a waaambulance,but sadly,they're all tied up in ohio.But they're right,America should just continue fracking,the landscape will look so much more beautiful.
這個評論區急需一輛救護車（拯救一下情緒低落的人），但不幸的是，它們都被綁在了俄亥俄州。但他們是對的，美國應該繼續水力壓裂（開采石油），風景會看起來更美麗。
Redditeers think gray dirt hills r beautiful and anything China does is evil seemingly
紅迪主義者認為灰色的土山是美麗的，中國所做的任何事情似乎都是XE的
The scale of public works in China is mind boggling.It’s one of very few examples where a centrally planned economy can produce a positive outcome.
中國公共工程的規模令人難以置信，這是中央計劃經濟能夠產生積極結果的極少數例子之一。
Doesn’t seem great for any kind of wildlife living there.
對生活在那里的任何野生動物來說都不是很好。
Fun fact about studies of solar farms it’s a great place for animals to have shade in a place that is desolate because it’s so sunny and hot.Life actually thrives when there isn’t constant heat and sunlight on plant life.Plants can burn up in a lot of these places.Only time I don’t support this is when they clear cut a forest for a solar farm.So many other places like open plains.
關于太陽能農場研究的有趣事實是，在一個荒涼的地方，動物們可以有陰涼的地方，因為那里是如此的炙熱。當植物生長中沒有持續的炙烤時，植物實際上就會繁榮昌盛。植物在很多這種地方都會燃燒。我唯一不支持的就是他們清理森林去建太陽能農場。很多其他地方都喜歡開闊的平原（建太陽能）。
hehe they are the number 1 nuclear growth too,both dominating solar and nuclear production.They have 38 running and 19 under construction.Yeah.
It has 38 nuclear power reactors in operation and 19 under construction.It has increased its number of operating reactors by more than ten times since 2000 and plans to bring five units into commercial operation this year alone.It is China,the fastest expanding nuclear power generator in the world.
“China is a big country.We have higher energy demand than other countries,but also more room for nuclear power,”said Zheng Mingguang,President of the Shanghai Nuclear Engineering Research and Design Institute
In the list of‘expanding countries’in the world,China stands at the very top,followed by Russia with seven reactors under construction,India six and the Republic of Korea three.Currently,the countries with most reactors in operation are the United States,France,Japan and China.
呵呵，他們的核電增長也位居世界第一，既主導著太陽能發電，也主宰著核電生產。他們已經有38個項目在運行，還有19個項目在建設中，是的。
中國已有38座核電機組投入運營，19座在建。自2000年以來，中國運營的核電機組數量增加了10倍，僅今年一年就計劃將5臺核電機組投入商業運營，這就是世界上擴建核電發電機組最快的中國。
上海核電工程技術研究院院長鄭明光表示：“中國是一個世界大國，我們的能源需求比其他國家更高，但也為核電提供了更大的發展空間?！?br /> 在世界“擴建國家”名單中，中國名列前茅，其次是俄羅斯，有7個反應堆在建，印度6個，大韓民國3個。目前，反應堆運行最多的國家是美國、法國、日本和中國。
It would be so cool if the US could attempt to do any one of these Chinese Mega projects,from solar cells on mountain tops,to mega hydroelectric dams,to high speed rail.
Super impressed with China's technological achievements.No so much impressed with the CCP and their surveillance state.That being said,I'm embarrassed for the US,its lack of mega projects,the fascists that have infiltrated their governments and it's spying program on all Americans.
如果美國能嘗試做這些中國大型項目中的任何一個，從山頂的太陽能發電，到大型水力發電大壩，再到高鐵，那就太酷了。
對中國的技術成就印象超級深刻。對他們的監視作為沒有那么多印象。話雖如此，我為美國感到尷尬，它缺乏大型項目，法西斯分子滲透到他們的政府，以及美國對所有美國人的間諜計劃。
No only is China manufacturing everything for the most wasteful nations on Earth like USA and Australia,they still have way CO2 output per capita.
And if you look at the cumulative CO2 produced.USA leads the charts by a large margin.
The absolute fucking nerve of dumb fucking Americans stealing the land,going through the industrial revolution and polluting the world on a unprecedented scale,and then outsourcing all the manufacturing to other countries and start complaining about other people polluting.
And yet USA still has the highest pollutions per capita even today.
A nation full of wasteful,idiotic hypocrites.A nation built on bloodshed and greed.And the blood shed and greed never stopped.
中國不僅為美國和澳大利亞等地球上最浪費的國家制造一切，而且后者的人均二氧化碳排放量仍然很高。
如果你看看累積產生的二氧化碳排放量，美國在排行榜上以很大的優勢領先。
愚蠢的美國人偷了土地，經歷了工業革命，以前所未有的規模污染世界，然后把所有的制造業外包給其他國家，開始抱怨其他人污染。
然而，即使在今天，美國的人均污染仍然是最高的。
一個充滿浪費，愚蠢的偽君子的國家。一個建立在流血和貪婪之上的國家。流血和貪婪從未停止過。
This needs to be a thing in the US too.Lots of sunny desert in CA that no one uses.May was well solar the hell out of it.
這在美國也需要成為一件事。加州有很多陽光充足的沙漠，沒有人使用。用太陽能建設激活這些地方也許是個好主意。
Yeah but solar is cleaner totally taking up massive swaths of land.I’m not saying that nuclear is any better because of the present dangers but solar isn’t exactly 100%clean either.I don’t think there is any form of energy in present era that is completely 100%green.Unless you want to count geothermal or hydroelectric.Actually those are two of the cleanest options geothermal being using the heat that the earth already creates and using a water current to turn turbines to generate electricity.These still do have an effect on the environment but it is negligible.We do have an effect on the environment that’s no question but it is so negligible when compared to natural disasters.Do we forget that volcanoes go off all the time spewing hundreds of thousands of parts per million of particulates into the air sulfur being one of the primary ones volcanic ash is another and the Earth compensates thunderstorms.Lightning helped rebuild the ozone that’s why you get that smell whenever lightning is about to strike.
是的，但太陽能更清潔，然而占用了大片土地。我并不是說核能更好，因為有目前的風險，但太陽能也不是100%清潔。我不認為在現在的時代有任何形式的能源是完全100%綠色的。除非你想說地熱或水力發電，實際上，這是兩個最干凈的選擇，利用地球已經產生的熱量和利用水流來轉動渦輪機發電。這些仍然對環境有影響，但可以忽略不計。我們確實對環境產生了影響，這是毫無疑問的，但與自然災害相比，它是如此的微不足道。我們是否忘記了火山一直在噴發，向空氣中噴出百萬數十萬的顆粒硫，作為火山灰的主要成分之一，伴隨著雷鳴。閃電幫助重造了臭氧，這就是為什么每當閃電來襲時，你就會聞到這種氣味。
Meanwhile my home town reappropriated a huge chunk of green space to install a solar farm that would power a whopping 2 percent of the city.It’ll pay for itself in a quick 40 years.
與此同時，我的家鄉重新占用了一大塊綠地，安裝了一個太陽能農場，為城市2%的區域供電。它很快地在40年內就會收回成本。
These are not solar panels,these are massive signal boosters aiming at aliens,partly controllers for those massive balloons!
Oh…
這些不是太陽能電池板，這些是瞄準外星人的巨大信號發射器，部分是那些巨大氣球的控制器！
噢...
The essentially free power they're making must be making a few hundred million here.My four panels power the house and electric car and net me about$ar from selling back power.I bet something on this scale is insanely profitable.
這里他們制造的成本便宜的電力一定是賺了好幾億。我有四個面板為房子和電動汽車供電，相當于每年從出售電力中凈賺，我打賭，這種大規模的太陽能有瘋狂的利潤。
I don't get why you'd put this on a slope.As this kills the vegetation beneath it,the roots that provide stability to the slope go away and you could get mass wasting events that would damage this stuff greatly.
我不明白你為什么要把這些放在斜坡上。當這殺死了它下面的植被時，那么為斜坡提供穩定的根系就消失了，可能會產生大規模的損害事件，將很大地破壞這些東西。
I've not seen any plant death under the panels in our farms.(not mine personally just the ones near me)Quite the opposite,the plant life likes the protection from the wind.The panels are raised high enough that enough light gets to the ground.Plants are way better at solar efficiency than we are.
我在我們農場的光伏板下沒有看到任何植物死亡。（不只是我個人，還有我身邊的人）恰恰相反，植物喜歡避風，面板被提升到足夠高的高度，足夠的光線到達地面。植物在光合作用效率方面比我們要好很多。
There is life everywhere.Just because there aren't antelope running around or some shit doesn't mean there isn't life and a thriving ecosystem.
到處都有生命，僅僅因為沒有羚羊跑來跑去或一些糞便并不意味著沒有生命和繁榮的生態系統。
Lol oh yes let's not do anything about climate change because we might cover a few hills of useless land in the middle of nowhere in China
But cutting down half of the Appalachians for just one more coal vein is totally fine
哈哈，哦，是的，我們不要對氣候變化做任何事情，因為我們可能會覆蓋幾座無用的山地，就像在中國的一個偏僻的地方，但為了再多一條煤脈礦，砍掉一半阿巴拉契亞山脈是完全可以的
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Lol,I’m just making the point that it’s not just dead empty land,lol,I’m not here shilling for big coal or some crap.
哈哈，我只是想說關鍵不僅是荒地，哈哈，我的意思不是說為了去賺錢就可以開采煤炭或一些有污染的東西。
But it is just dead empty land.Just because it has a little bit of life doesn't mean it's good useful land.There's life hundreds of feet down underground and flying in the high atmosphere.Life is everywhere but it can still be useless land.
但這只是荒地。僅僅因為它有一點生命并不意味著它是好的有用土地。地下幾百英尺的地方有生命，高空大氣層中有生命漂浮，生命無處不在，但它仍然可以是無用的土地。
Based on the video,I just watched about China spray painting their grass and stapling leaves to trees,I question that these solar panels are even real.This could easily be China pretending that they are trying to make a difference while not really doing anything
根據以前視頻，我看過中國用漆噴出他們的草和釘樹葉在樹上，我懷疑這些太陽能電池板是否是真的。這可能是中國假裝他們在努力做出改變，而沒有真正做任何事情
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We have~47,000 miles of interstate.That’s with a minimum of a two-barrel highway.There’s a lotta unused space between barrels that can support solar panels,and the highway network is a natural for distribution,leading to every major,and most minor,population centers.Also the US Highway network.And because it would be part of the road network,the panels are readily accessible for service,and can be blown clean or washed from the side of the road.Clearly,fewer obstructions to sunlight…
I saw on Reddit at least one country is doing this.
Not saying this is the answer or even a part of an answer,but it could be a solid enough idea to look at.Could start with looking at existing between-the-road installs and assessing performance.
我們有大約47000英里的州際公路。那至少是一條雙車道的高速公路。車道之間有很多未使用的空間可以設置太陽能電池板，高速公路網是通過一個自然的配比，通向每一個主要的，和大多數次要的人口中心。這就是美國高速公路網。而且，由于它將是道路網的一部分，這些光伏板可以很容易地進行維修，可以在路邊吹干凈或清洗。而且顯然減少了對陽光的阻礙...
我在Reddit上看到至少有一個國家在這樣做。
不是說這是答案，或者是答案的一部分，但它可能是一個足夠堅實的想法，可以考慮?？梢詮牟榭船F有的道路，嘗試安裝和評估性能開始。
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I love how China is f*cking our a**es with solar now,paving it like it's carpet.Nothing's more straight forward than deploying solar and for some reason,nothing's really happening in south-western united-states,mexico and southern Europe,to that extend.
我喜歡中國現在用太陽能來*我們的**，把面板鋪得像地毯一樣。沒有什么比部署太陽能更直接的了，出于某種原因，在美國西南部、墨西哥和南歐，沒有什么這樣的事真正發生過。
Americans in the comments so awash in propaganda they don't see the stark contrast of a country dedicating large amounts of resources to infrastructure vs.a declining oligarchy which has not only allowed their existing infrastructure to crumble,but actively supported the privatization of infrastructure.Do y'all use the roads?
These people are paying way more for their electricity bill than they were a few years ago and they still look at this and think:"nationalism means I have to say that this cheap electricity from a sustainable source is actually a bad thing".Do y'all pay bills?
美國人在評論中充斥著大量的喧囂，他們沒有看到一個國家將大量資源用于基礎設施，相比下我們的一個衰落的寡頭政治，不僅使其現有的基礎設施崩潰，且積極支持基礎設施的私有化。你們都使用道路嗎？
這里的人支付的電費比幾年前要多得多，他們仍然盯著這些面板并想到：“國家主義意味著讓我不得不說，這種來自可持續來源的廉價電力實際上是一件壞事”，你們都付賬單嗎？
It is ugly, but hear me out: you could do this to a couple hundred square miles of empty Nevada desert and power most of the country. You already nuked that desert so you can't be that concerned about its ugliness!
不好看，但聽我說完：你可以在幾百平方英里的內華達空曠沙漠上這樣做，并為全國大部分地區提供電力。你已經在沙漠里進行過核試驗，所以你不能那么擔心它的丑陋！
No we'd get redditors complaining bout the view being ruined
不，我們會讓紅迪網友抱怨風景被毀了
If the US built it it's perfect. It won't erode soil, it won't affect wildlife, vegetation would cower at the
thought of blocking America's energy. Rain and dust? Pshhh. Freedom will take care of it.
Daft act like solar panels act differently when installed in different countries. This is what a solar farm looks like everywhere.
如果是美國建造的，那就完美了。它不會侵蝕土壤，也不會影響野生動物，植被會一想到會阻礙美國能源就停止生長。雨和灰塵？噓，自由會處理好的。
愚蠢的行為，就好像安裝在不同的國家的太陽能電池板會不一樣的運行似的。這才是到處都能見到的太陽能發電場的樣子。
China is built on cheap manufacturing, which requires cheap power.
Solar ls the cheapest total cost of power, even cheaper than coal.
Gets even cheaper if just one project can generate huge economies of scale from creating such large panel production capabilities to meet the projects deadlines.
With an extra bonus that the large production volume and lower panel cost makes for a great export to the rest of the world, who are both desperate for panels and the market size grows the cheaper panels are. Its wins all around for China.
中國是建立在廉價制造之上的，而廉價制造需要廉價的電力。
太陽能有最便宜的電力總成本，甚至比煤炭便宜。
如果僅僅一個項目，就要在滿足項目的工期內，通過制造如此大的面板生產能力來產生巨大的規模經濟，那么就會變得更便宜。
還有一個額外的好處是，大量的生產量和更低的面板成本，會產生一個龐大的到世界其他地區的出口，世界其它地方都渴望光伏板市場規模的增長，我指的是便宜的面板。這為中國贏得了全方位的勝利。
People are fine with destroying a landscape to build buildings, mine oil, and minerals, but the moment you put solar panels on it, people are offended, lol.
Do you also get offended when you look at New York with all those hideous skyscrapers?
人們可以破壞景觀來建造建筑物、開采石油和礦物，但當你把太陽能板放在上面的那一刻，人們就會被冒犯，哈哈。
當你看著紐約那些可怕的摩天大樓時，你也會生氣嗎？