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China Develops air carrier killer Drone Swarm
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繼蜂群無人機之后，中國現在開發“迷你航母”來訓練海軍對抗無人機的威脅
在展示了無人機群技術后，中國現在開發了一個海軍平臺，以訓練其部隊抵御無人機“蜂群”的威脅。無人機群是一種在敵對空域部署小型無人機集群的概念。
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China Develops air carrier killer Drone Swarm
中國發展航母殺手無人機群
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中國發展航母殺手無人機群
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2021年11月26日
After Swarm Drones, China Now Develops ‘Mini Aircraft Carrier’ To Train PLA Navy To Counter Drone Menace.
After showcasing swarm drone technology, China has now developed a naval platform to train its forces to defend against drone swarm threats. Drone swarm is a concept of deploying a cluster of small unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in hostile airspace.
The idea is to confuse the enemy radar, thus enabling the drones to successfully conduct their assigned reconnaissance or other tactical support missions.
The China Academy of Electronics and Information Technology which is a subsidiary of the state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Corporation carried out a massive drone swarm experiment in June 2017, involving nearly 120 UAVs. Later, it demonstrated its prowess with nearly 200 fixed-wing drones.
It is pertinent to mention that warships are particularly vulnerable to drone swarm attacks. In 2019, a number of US Navy destroyers had been swarmed by drones over a period of many nights, Popular Mechanics previously reported. Even by April this year, the US Navy was unable to identify these drones or their operators.
On their own, drone swarms are known for their inherent ability to confuse and overwhelm an adversary’s defenses. This makes it very difficult for the opponent to prioritize threats and allocate its own resources in an effective manner.
繼蜂群無人機之后，中國現在開發“迷你航母”來訓練海軍對抗無人機的威脅
在展示了無人機群技術后，中國現在開發了一個海軍平臺，以訓練其部隊抵御無人機“蜂群”的威脅。無人機群是一種在敵對空域部署小型無人機集群的概念。
其目的是迷惑敵方雷達，從而使無人機能夠成功地執行指定的偵察或其他戰術支援任務。
2017年6月，國有的中國電子科技集團公司下屬的中國電子信息技術研究院進行了一次大規模的無人機蜂群實驗，涉及近120架無人機。后來，它用近200架固定翼無人機展示了自己的實力。
值得一提的是，軍艦特別容易受到無人機群攻擊。據《大眾機械》此前報道，2019年，美國海軍的多艘驅逐艦連續幾個晚上都被無人機包圍。即使到今年4月，美國海軍也無法識別這些無人機或它們的操作員。
就其本身而言，無人機蜂群以其固有的迷惑和壓倒對手防御的能力而聞名。這使得對手很難以有效的方式優先考慮威脅和分配自己的資源。
After showcasing swarm drone technology, China has now developed a naval platform to train its forces to defend against drone swarm threats. Drone swarm is a concept of deploying a cluster of small unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in hostile airspace.
The idea is to confuse the enemy radar, thus enabling the drones to successfully conduct their assigned reconnaissance or other tactical support missions.
The China Academy of Electronics and Information Technology which is a subsidiary of the state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Corporation carried out a massive drone swarm experiment in June 2017, involving nearly 120 UAVs. Later, it demonstrated its prowess with nearly 200 fixed-wing drones.
It is pertinent to mention that warships are particularly vulnerable to drone swarm attacks. In 2019, a number of US Navy destroyers had been swarmed by drones over a period of many nights, Popular Mechanics previously reported. Even by April this year, the US Navy was unable to identify these drones or their operators.
On their own, drone swarms are known for their inherent ability to confuse and overwhelm an adversary’s defenses. This makes it very difficult for the opponent to prioritize threats and allocate its own resources in an effective manner.
繼蜂群無人機之后，中國現在開發“迷你航母”來訓練海軍對抗無人機的威脅
在展示了無人機群技術后，中國現在開發了一個海軍平臺，以訓練其部隊抵御無人機“蜂群”的威脅。無人機群是一種在敵對空域部署小型無人機集群的概念。
其目的是迷惑敵方雷達，從而使無人機能夠成功地執行指定的偵察或其他戰術支援任務。
2017年6月，國有的中國電子科技集團公司下屬的中國電子信息技術研究院進行了一次大規模的無人機蜂群實驗，涉及近120架無人機。后來，它用近200架固定翼無人機展示了自己的實力。
值得一提的是，軍艦特別容易受到無人機群攻擊。據《大眾機械》此前報道，2019年，美國海軍的多艘驅逐艦連續幾個晚上都被無人機包圍。即使到今年4月，美國海軍也無法識別這些無人機或它們的操作員。
就其本身而言，無人機蜂群以其固有的迷惑和壓倒對手防御的能力而聞名。這使得對手很難以有效的方式優先考慮威脅和分配自己的資源。
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I thought about this idea back when I was 14 when I first heard every warship has a limited radar target tracking capacity.
當我14歲的時候，我第一次聽說每艘軍艦的雷達目標跟蹤能力都是有限的時候，我就想到了這個想法。
O primeiro objetivo é desenvolver máquinas de guerra para dominar outros povos.
第一個目標是發展戰爭機器來統治其他民族。
I figured the Chinese had already developed these kind of drones weapon. This reminds me so much of the Star Craft 2, where the Protos can build air carrier with drones!
我猜中國人已經研發出這種無人機武器了。這讓我想起了《星際爭霸2》，神族可以建造發射無人機的航空母艦!
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Starcraft 1!
《星際爭霸1》!
Similar principles (concepts, ideas, methods) apply to individual and personal attacks and defenses. Get control of a person's mind (drones symbolize indoctrination which is a relatively soft attack). Once convinced of the ideas the enemy has planted in the minds of intended victims . . . the physical destruction of the human person is greatly simplified. Heck, the victims may even cooperate in their own destruction. Which is what was desired in the first place. In more polite circles it's called education. It's supposed to help those who are educated live better lives. But so called education can be turned against the people when truth is no longer the guiding principle. Instead it's whatever works quickest. AKA expediency .
類似的原則(概念、想法、方法)也適用于個人攻擊和防御?？刂埔粋€人的思想(無人機象征著灌輸，這是一種相對溫和的攻擊)。一旦確信了敵人在預定受害者心中植入的想法，再去毀滅人的肉體就太容易了。見鬼，受害者甚至可能會配合他們去毀滅自己。這是我們一開始就想要的結果。在更禮貌的圈子里，這叫做教育。它應該幫助那些受過教育的人過上更好的生活。但是，當真理不再是指導原則時，所謂的教育就會對人們不利。相反，它是最快見效的，也叫權宜之計。
You’d want to take into account the flying range and deployment and flying speed of these drones, and the control system. The signals could be jammed. It could create a drone vs drone scenario, with ships being guarded by a flock of drones themselves. Defensive lasers that guard specific areas like the radar system would be set up. We knew that drone D-day will come someday.
The deployment drone missile itself is vulnerable. 100 drones could get shot down at once which might be costly.
你需要考慮的是這些無人機的飛行范圍、部署和飛行速度，以及控制系統。信號可能會被干擾。它可能會創造出一個無人機對無人機的場景，船只由一群無人機守衛。此外，還將設置防御激光器，用于保護雷達系統等特定區域。我們知道無人機登陸日總有一天會到來。
部署的無人機導彈本身很脆弱。100架無人機可能同時被擊落，這代價就可能很高了。
Ya, but the Chinese is the manufacturing power house atm! I’m sure they can crank a million of those drones with U.... tears in a day!
是的，但是中國人是制造大國!我相信他們能用....的眼淚在一天內制造出一百萬架這樣的無人機!
I doubt Chinese military hardware.
我對中國的軍事裝備表示懷疑。
@kcolorado1576 look at Chinese rocket launch records though
看看中國的火箭發射記錄
Yes but there's a limit to how many drones can be housed on the ship.
是的，但是船上能容納多少無人機是有限制的。
A thermobaric missile would destroy a swarms cohesion.
So swarming has limited uses.
溫壓導彈會破壞蜂群的凝聚力。
所以蜂群的用途有限。
Swarming is extremely cost effective. Each drone probably costs less than $100,000 while an anti-aircraft missile costs in the millions.
Also no country has large thermobaric warheads for air defense. so it'd require a whole new weapons system to be built from scratch.
“蜂群”是非常劃算的。每架無人機的成本可能不到10萬美元，而防空導彈的成本則高達數百萬美元。
此外，沒有國家擁有用于防空的大型溫壓彈頭。所以這需要從頭開始建造一個全新的武器系統。
@hughmungus2760 they do have thermobaric explosives for rocket launchers, they can build missiles pretty fast lok
他們確實有用于火箭發射器的溫壓炸藥，他們可以很快制造導彈
How will you detect and target the swarm for your missile? Your proposal sounds like what the Imperial Japanese Navy installed in their Yamato battleships, an anti-aircraft shell for it's 18-inch guns. Didn't work.
你將為你的導彈如何探測和瞄準蜂群?你的建議聽起來就像日本帝國海軍在他們的大和級戰列艦上安裝一個18英寸的防空炮彈，然而這是行不通的。
Unless they’re delivered with a cbu cruise missile that dispense them relatively close
除非它們用巡航導彈發射集束炸彈，而且能在相對近的地方發射。
Dream on...
繼續做夢吧
Correct. Lazer defense grids have pretty much reliability stamped out the drone swarm threat tactic.
沒錯，激光防御網的可靠性很高，壓制了無人機蜂群的威脅戰術。
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@jrhamilton4448 I think swarms will Be eventually unstoppable. These mechanized hornets will be ableTo Communicate and assess weakness. They will Fly low, inches above water and pop up to hit every critical system in the ship, rendering it useless until a larger munition comes and neutralizes the ship.
我認為蜂群最終會勢不可擋。
這些機械化大黃蜂將能夠交流和評估弱點。它們會飛得很低，在水面上幾英寸飛，然后突然出現，打擊飛船上的每一個關鍵系統，使它失去作用，直到一枚更大的彈藥來摧毀這艘船。
@charleyarchuleta4932 If it's inches above the water it better be pretty calm seas and The Israelis actually devised a really interesting system to deal with drones. They were working with DARPA since back in the 70s in the infancy of arial drones. Most major metro police departments are equipped with technology that can down a drone swarm. Look what happened to the news drones filming footage at the border during that mass crossing and where neutralized. Hundreds of news drones were fried.
如果它在水面以上幾英寸的地方飛，那當時的海面最好是相當平靜，以色列人實際上設計了一個非常有趣的系統來對付無人機。早在70年代無人機誕生初期，他們就開始與美國國防部高級研究計劃局（DARPA）合作。大多數主要的地鐵警察部門都配備了可以擊落無人機群的技術?？纯丛谀谴未笠幠Ｔ骄称陂g，那些新聞記者拍攝畫面的無人機發生了什么，它們全被壓制了，數百架無人機被炸飛。
just a matter of time until these vulnerabilities are negated by refined technologies.
這些漏洞遲早會被改進的技術所消除。
@charleyarchuleta4932 Back in the sixties through the eighties that threat was the dreaded Russian nuclear attack submarine. Ever seen the movie The Hunt For Red October? Everything wonder weapon has an Achilles heel as does every defense mechanism.
回到60年代到80年代，可怕的俄羅斯攻擊型核潛艇是威脅?？催^電影《獵殺紅色十月》嗎?任何神奇武器就像任何防御機制一樣都有致命弱點。
If you attach invisible rope to a swarm of invisible drones which is attached to iron man suit than you can basically have flying powers like in those Chinese movies.
如果你把隱形的繩子綁在一群隱形的無人機上，這些無人機被綁在鋼鐵俠的衣服上，你就可以像中國電影里那樣擁有飛行的能力。
I was thinking the same thing. Lol
我也是這么想的，哈哈。
Drone swarm inbound
Turns on Emp then it's raining drones
無人機蜂群來襲
打開電磁脈沖，就會下無人機雨
This really interesting. New things about China's Superpower intrigues.
真的很有趣。關于超級大國—中國的新事物引人入勝。
None of these weapons can match the one i invented in my dreams last night , after reading a few comics .
這些武器都比不上我昨晚看了幾本漫畫后在夢里發明的武器。
EMP device made out of a Kodak camera and a few other everyday obxts can knock these birds right out of the sky, just make sure you aren't underneath them where they fall
用柯達相機和其他一些日常用品制成的電磁脈沖設備可以把這些鳥從天上撞下來，只要確保你不在它們掉下來的地方
I’ve just wondering when is going to be available on Amazon?
我只是想知道什么時候能在亞馬遜上買到?
Somebody should make a CIWS that uses those little 5.7mm armour-piercing rounds or something equivalent.
應該有人制造一種近程防御武器系統（CIWS），用的是5.7毫米的小型穿甲彈或類似的東西。
I shared this with my Dad. I mentioned that there's insect sized drones for swarming ground troops. I always read the comments, because there's wise men who know how to counter threats.
我把這個告訴了爸爸。我提到過有昆蟲大小的無人機用來包圍地面部隊。我經?？丛u論，因為智者知道如何應對威脅。
If you create 100k+ of these drones, send them in a group of 500-1000 at a time to kill anything with heat sensor and move. That's pretty much over for the enemy defensive line. You can also create ground drones, crawl like spider , add snake drones and dragonfly drones.
如果你制造了10萬多架這樣的無人機，一次派出500-1000架，殺死任何帶有熱傳感器和移動的目標。敵人的防線基本完蛋了。你也可以創建地面無人機，像蜘蛛一樣爬行，增加蛇形無人機和蜻蜓無人機。
Good thing America is developing lasers
好消息是美國正在發展激光
I wouldn't be too worried! The Germans recently fielded a gun that took out a swarm of drones with just a few rounds. I think the munitions was programmed to burst into small fragments near the swarm.
我不會太擔心!德國人最近部署了一種火炮，僅用幾發子彈就能消滅一群無人機。我認為彈藥被設定在蜂群附近，然后爆炸成小碎片。