網友討論：韓國經濟泡沫會即將破裂嗎？
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網友：在我上小學的時候，我們家從韓國搬到了加拿大，我想說的是我非常感激父母做出的這個決定。為了進入好一點的大學，我在韓國的那些表親們從上初中開始就必須學到凌晨兩三點鐘。在韓國生活競爭是非常激烈的........
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網友討論：韓國經濟泡沫會即將破裂嗎？
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My family moved from South Korea to Canada when I just started elementary school... and I gotta say I can't thank my parents enough. My cousins were up until 2 to 3 am studying from middle school to high school, just to get a chance to enter a 'decent' university. The life in South Korea is extremely competitive and overall very painful (there's a reason why the suicide rate is one of the highest in South Korea).
在我上小學的時候，我們家從韓國搬到了加拿大，我想說的是我非常感激父母做出的這個決定。為了進入好一點的大學，我在韓國的那些表親們從上初中開始就必須學到凌晨兩三點鐘。在韓國生活競爭是非常激烈的，總的來說，非常的痛苦。這就是為什么韓國是世界自殺率最高的國家之一的原因。
It IS the highest.
韓國是自殺率最高的國家，沒有之一。
I believe that this intense studying culture in Korea is necessary. We are an export based country and needs to be innovative and hence needs to study hard to stay competitive.
我認為韓國高強度的學習文化是有存在必要的。我們國家是以出口為基礎的，需要創新，因此我們需要努力學習保持強大的競爭力。
Although like you mentioned, the intense studying culture has some massive disadvantages like high suicide rates and low birth rates….
不過正如你所說的那樣，高強度的學習文化也會帶來一些巨大的缺點， 比如高自殺率和低生育率。
@Impootus what's the point of all the riches when life is so stressful and unhappy?
當生活充滿了壓力和不快樂時，就算擁有了財富，那么又有什么意義呢？
High Suicides are usually for poor nations, the exceptions are rich Korea and Japan.
貧窮國家的自殺率往往會比較高，但是富裕的韓國和日本卻是例外。
@Wan R What's the point of a high standard of living, a longer lifespan compared to other countries, excellent healthcare. How can South Korea achieve those without any oil or any other natural resources? From its human capital, which is the only asset that the country has. Just think what South Korea would have been if they had oil and gas.
沒有石油和自然資源的韓國是如何擁有較高的生活水平，和比其他國家更高的預期壽命以及良好的醫療保健的呢？所有這一切的意義又在哪里？韓國所有的一切都來自于韓國的人力資本，這是韓國唯一擁有的一個資產。想想看如果韓國擁有石油和天然氣資源的話，那么韓國將會是什么樣子
We have to remember that unlike Western Europe, US/Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or the Gulf Countries, South Korea doesn't have much resources or even wide fertile lands, no oil/natural gas too (there might be but it wasn't explored yet). SKorea has to rely on human capital, it's people has to be more valuable than any resource.
我們必須要記住的是，和西歐，美國，加拿大，澳大利亞，新西蘭及海灣國家不同的是，韓國沒有豐富的資源，甚至連廣闊的肥沃土地都沒有。韓國也沒有石油和天然氣。韓國只能依賴人力資本，韓國的人才必須變得比所有資源更加值錢
@Jill Thompson Finland, Sweden, and Denmark are prosperous despite lack of oil and gas. High standard of living, excellent healthcare and longer lifespan compared to other countries, and relatively strong economy. Like Korea they also only have human capital as the only asset.
Yet they consistently ranked among the highest in quality of life and happiness together with good work life balance and citizens' welfare, while Koreans often ends up at the opposite end of the spectrum. Why is that? I really can't really comprehend why some thinks that economic strength comes with stresses in life, especially when Scandinavian countries shows the exact opposite.
雖然芬蘭，瑞典和丹麥也缺乏石油和天然氣 ，但是他們依然很繁榮。這些國家生活質量高，醫療保健服務好，擁有比其他國家更長的預期壽命，而且經濟相對來說也很強勁。而且和韓國一樣，他們也只有人力資本這個資產。
但是在生活質量，幸福感，生活和工作之間的平衡以及公民福利方面一直位居世界前列，但是韓國卻完全相反。這又是為什么呢？我實在是無法理解為什么有些人會認為經濟發展上去后就一定會伴隨著生活壓力呢，明明斯堪的納維亞國家就完全不是這個樣子的
@Wan R The “point” is the entire country doesn’t have to live like Sudan or Somalia where you don’t have to worry about suicide since homicide is the far more likely scenario.
意義在于韓國人不需要像索馬里人或者蘇丹人那樣的生活，在索馬里和蘇丹這樣的國家，你的確不用擔心自殺問題，因為在這些國家，你更有可能會被人謀殺。
The highest is Greenland.
自殺率最高的是格陵蘭島
It's same here in India. We as a students need to deal with lot of pressure. Population is growing but the seats in colleges or universities or jobs in companies are not increasing.
印度同樣也是如此。我們作為學生需要處理很多的壓力。印度人口在增長，但是大學的錄取人數和公司的招聘崗位卻沒有增加。
As a Korean, there’s one more big problem to add. All the infrastructure and jobs are extremely centralized in Seoul. That makes people hard to relocate to other regions in Korea and people are forced to be more competitive to make their own livings. Seoul is nice and convenient city, cannot disagree with that but too stuffed here. Planning to leave here in a couple of years and live abroad.
作為一個韓國人，我想要補充很重要的一個點，那就是所有的基礎設施和工作都高度集中在了首爾，這使得人們很難移居到韓國其他地區去，為了維持生計，人們被迫提高自己的競爭力。首爾是一個美麗的，生活便捷的城市，這一點我無法否認，但是這里太擁擠了。我打算幾年后離開這里去國外生活。
A big reason for the birth rate issue in South Korea is tied up in this, as well. Raising children requires living space that most South Koreans can't have access to.
韓國出生率低的很大一個原因也和此有關，養育孩子需要有生活空間，但是大部分韓國人無法獲得這樣的生活空間。
Since South Korea's economy is so deeply intertwined with Samsung, is it possible to say that South Korea's economy is reliant on the success of Samsung? I think this is because of the close relationship between Samsung executives and key South Korean government officials.
既然韓國的經濟和三星緊密交織在一起，那么可不可以說韓國的經濟依賴于三星的成功呢？我之所以這樣想是因為三星的高管和韓國政府重要官員之間關系很密切。
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Samsung accounts for 20% of SK's GDP. I don't know if any other developed country is so dependent on one company.
三星為韓國貢獻了20%的gdp。我不知道還有哪個發達國家會如此依賴于一家企業。
I think it's safe to say that. Samsung has been creating almost 20% of the gdp in the country in recent years, therefore IF such a bubble would instantly burst, it would create a massive problem. I've read some stories about korean officials helping samsung in various scenarios - be it environmental damage, breaking law, or evading punishment. I believe that both sides are trying to upheld this status quo, since no good will come to either side if something happened.
我認為的確可以這樣說。過去幾年，韓國近20%的gdp都是三星創造的。因此如果這樣的泡沫瞬間破裂的話，那么肯定將會造成巨大的問題。我看過一些韓國官員在各種情況下幫助三星的故事：不管三星是破壞環境，違法法律還是逃避懲罰，都有韓國官員出來為他們保駕護航。我認為雙方都在努力維持現狀，如果真的出了什么問題的話，那么對于雙方來說都沒有好處。
And it's not just Samsung. It's also LG and Hyundai etc. 80% of the Korean economy derives from these chaebols.
不僅僅是三星，還有LG，和現代等企業。韓國80%的gdp都來自于這些財閥。
Samsung is the Korean version of the Japanese Zaibatsus like Mitsubishi or Toyota.... and thats normal, mate. I live in Denmark, and we have a similar situation (yes, the economy of Denmark relies on family-owned corporations). The main difference is that Denmark is a very small country, so we are able to create a welfare state with the profit of these corporations, but in the case of South Korea, it's impossible due to the size of the population and geo-political reality, a.k.a. North Korea.
日本也有財閥，比如三菱和豐田，而三星則是韓國版的財閥。這很正常，我生活在丹麥，我們也有類似的問題，是的，丹麥經濟也依賴于家族企業。主要的不同在于丹麥是一個非常小的國家，所以我們可以用這些企業創造的利潤來建立一個福利國家，但是由于人口規模和地緣政治現實（即朝鮮），韓國無法做到這一點。
? @AaronVanWolfen Wrong, Toyota and Mitsubishi are far from Samsung. Samsung accounts for 20% of GDP, Toyota accounts for 5% of Japan's(which is still extremely high).
你說的是錯誤的，豐田和三菱遠遠比不上三星。三星占韓國gdp的20%，而豐田只占日本gdp的5%（這個比例依然很高）
@Mamotale Mankoe The Samsung you're talking about is probs Samsung Electronics. That's just one branch out of the dozens of other companies under the name "Samsung". All of those little companies make up the "20% of GDP" you are talking about. How likely is it that all of those dozens of companies will fail overnight? Close to zero. Taiwan's situation is what you call really bad since TSMC accounts for more than 40% of its GDP and specializes in one single service: foundry. Taiwan is completely dependent on one company. So Taiwan is more dangerous.
你說的可能是三星電子。但三星電子只是三星旗下數十家企業中的一家而已。所有這些企業合在一起才為韓國存在了20%的gdp。但是這數十家企業一夜之間倒閉的可能性又有多大呢？幾乎是零。我認為真正有嚴重問題的是臺灣地區才對，因為臺灣地區40%以上的gdp都來自于臺積電，而臺積電專門從事一項業務，那就是芯片代工。臺灣地區完全依賴一家企業。所以臺灣地區要更加危險。
Samsung is tooo important to korea. 20% korean gdp . Adding Hyundai, LG,Sk over 50%.
It is natural that the Korea government will support them. If samsung goes down, 20% gdp gone, 30 to 40 % korea work force had no jobs.
The better these companies perform the better for Korea overall .
三星對于韓國來說太重要了。它貢獻了韓國20%的gdp。如果再算上現代，LG和SK的話，那么它們占韓國的gdp就超過了50%。
韓國政府自然會支持他們。如果三星倒閉的話，那么韓國20%的gdp就會灰飛煙滅，韓國30%到40%的勞動力將會失去工作。
這些企業表現的越好，對韓國就越有利。
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I've lived in Korea and the US and I can say a lot of things are actually better in Korea. For example, I can walk late at night without worrying about anything. I leave my phone on the table and I don't have to worry about someone taking it. Gov't employees in Korea are friendly and actully really smart. Health care system I think is one of the best in the world. SKorea is a small nation compared to China, Russia and Japan, so people believe once they fall behind in terms of technology and science they might be swallowed up by surrounding nations.
我在韓國和美國都生活過，我認為韓國很多方面要比美國更好一些。比如，我可以深夜外出而不用擔心任何事情。我可以把手機放在桌子上而不用擔心被人拿走。韓國政府的雇員非常友好，非常聰明。我認為韓國擁有世界上最好的醫療體系之一。和中國，俄羅斯及日本相比，韓國是一個小國，所以人們認為一旦在科技上處于落后地位，他們就有可能被周邊國家吞并。
I've been living in korea (my wife is korean) for three years now and I can safely say yes the health system is fairly good but people aren't friendly as you think and there are a lot of issues you probably choose to ignore.
我在韓國生活了三年，我的妻子是韓國人，我可以肯定的說韓國的醫療體系相當的好，但是韓國人沒有你想象的那么友好，而且韓國還有很多的問題，你可能對這些問題選擇了忽視。
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US is really one of the worst countries in the western world when it comes to government services or safety.
在政府服務和安全方面， 美國真的可以算是西方國家里面表現最差的國家之一了。
South Korea prosperity reminds me with '80 Japanese bubble. Hope they learn from Japan bubble bust.
韓國的繁榮讓我想起了上世紀80年代日本的經濟泡沫。希望他們能從日本泡沫破裂中吸取教訓。
As a Korean, there’s so much more issues. Wealth disparity is a huge one. A big factor to our low birth rate.
作為韓國人，我認為韓國有很多的問題，其中一個很大的問題就是貧富差距。這是韓國出生率低迷的很大一個原因。